Allen Herbert Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 AZ, prefer your other name Baily Seals, sort of a arty feel to it. I think it's about that time you used your left wrist. Your right must be starting to get tired. Sorry mate, could not resist. I'll be posting a new photo soon, so you can punish me. Hey, give me a big smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 "...as for the tone of your original post, i think your premise that serious photographers and "real leica photogs/owners" would not/should not criticize leica's efforts is unwelcome elitism. "Unwelcome elitism"? Read the initial post again Roger. I never said anything of the sort. IMO, the elitism is coming from a few virulent bashers and even people who delight in deflating any sort of fondness for the M (some don't even own the camera), not rational critics open to discussion. It's a endless diatribe in an effort to be empirically right about their subjective opinion. In fact, just look at the last string of posts here, same old crap from the same consistently negative people relentlessly cramming their doomsday scenario down everyone's throat. You could post a thread about rim lighting hair, and they'd segue it to the death of film or how crappy the MP is. Besides, I have just as much right to express my opinion in favor of the brand as they do in bashing it. "leica has proven it can't build reliable electronics. let them stick to what they do well. and let's help them do that" They don't have to build the electronics. It's a world market now. Kodak builds a substantial amount of the sensors in other cameras. Leica has turned to them and Imacon for electronic expertise. If they stick to what they do well, and leave the electronics to other experts, then a simple M digital can happen. A rangefinder camera that offers personal control just like they do now... thus offering an alternative. Alternatives are the basis of unique positioning in the marketplace. IMO, if they do go the same route as other makers, they will indeed go out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Someday, i will understand, why some folks get so worked up about what camera some folk use. Someday, i will understand, why some folk get worked up about medium, folks use. Someday. Meanwhile, i will join in for the fun of it all. Fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg choong Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 <p><center><img src="http://www.gregchoongphotography.com/d2.jpg"></center><P>... recently I have a chance taking a digilux 2 out to the street for a couple of days...a nice camera designed for M users like us... well, I'm not ditching my M yet, I like doing photography with my Ms... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 <i> photo.net does not have a degree program </i><p> That means you'll never get your GED, Kevin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Sticking pins in Bailey, in his new A to Z custume, he got off Robert Applebury. Baily is now A to Z man, defender of the digital faith. Is pin sticking Baily the the new Forum hobby? Give the poor little soul a break. Just wants to be loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 i was going to post a bird photo, better forget about that idea, Baily will get me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 "You could post a thread about rim lighting hair, and they'd segue it to the death of film or how crappy the MP is." Marc, like Homer Simpson says: "It's funny 'cause it's true!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Greg: Use you RIGHT EYE, man! You're getting nose grease all over the rear LCD! Seriously (well...) - next time show us a picture of you in the Jaguar - wearing the "Leica" golf shirt. 8^) And post some pix from the D2, and comments - on a separate thread, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 >�[� Z Photo.net Patron, feb 09, 2004; 05:05 p.m. BTW, please improve your reading comprehension. >Huh...? Whatever that means >It means you made a claim that, had you read more carefully, you would have realized was wrong. >Or do you not understand what comprehension means? Looks like you are the dumba$$ here... As Lutz pointed out, you did post a graph of US camera sales. Or did you not bother reading it either before or after you claimed it was a chart for world sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Jon, you and your pal aren't paying attention, because I posted more than once here, and I <b>did</b> post information about worldwide film sales. Too bad you couldn't catch it. Try keeping up next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 <i> Equal by f4.0, but so what? </i><p> The Leica can't focus as close. (So what?) The Leica costs much more. (So what?) The Leica doesn't work with macro lenses. (So what?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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