christian_hilmersen1 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Just read the cold weather M7 thread, at it seems like most of the advice is teoretical and not based on experience. Well, in cold weather the camera is not your only concern - the tripod is a concern too. When photographing a river in -20C I took my gloves off to adjust the tripod (all metal manfrotto) - and.....my fingers froze to it. They did not stick for too long, but it gave me a scare... So - and this is teoretical - holding a cold MP to your face can be pretty scary thing. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_freeman1 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 The cold weather photographers I know tape sections of foam pipe insulation to the primary legs of their tripods...jf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I worked in Edmonton, and for a period of 42 days, the temperature did not exceed -20 C, of course, lower temperatures were recorded. I was doing shift work and had plenty of time off to spend in Banff and Jasper National parks. None of my cameras failed: M6, CL, etc., because I kept them inside my coat...simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_hilmersen1 Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Yes, window isolation with tape around works well. Gitzo now has an isolated tripod. It was the head my fingers froze to.... (but I sould never have taken my gloves off....so this shouldn't have been a possibility) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_merrill Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 The pipe insulation really works and it is cheap, plus it pads the legs for comfort when you throw the tripod over your shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 not helpping much but practical: I usually skip photographing outdoor any time below -10C and will simply sit by the window drinking my tea, watching sky, and thinking my next project on a summer beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_hilmersen1 Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Stephen: I agree, that is the best solution, but you have to protect it from condensation. Tripod work is the worst - as it usually takes a while....so keeping the camera warm becomes a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 <<and thinking my next project on a summer beach.>> Me too, except it's 10 paces out my back door all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandler Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Wentong: I agree, that is the best solution! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmishkar Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 While working in Alaska where the daytime high was minus 18 F and the low minus 35 F, my M6 did not fail either. And it wasn't inside my jacket at all. The only problem of course was battery failure, but a few extra batteries solved that problem. In regard to thin gloves, try to find a pair that don't shed too much. Ones made with polypropylene? are better than cotton, as the cotton lint will collect inside the camera body while changing film. L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h_kan_th_rngren Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 There are tripods made of different material than metal, wood for example. My Bessa T has been a great companion the few times I have been out in low temperatures. It has a plastic shell and can be operated with gloves on. I do not know how well it holds up in really low temperatures, as I tend to avoid going out much when it is really cold (-15C or worse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_collier2 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 LowePro, and I am sure others, make light weight knit gloves with the grip area covered in soft dots. They are easily worn under regular mitts and are perfect for cold weather work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 <<light weight knit gloves with the grip area covered in soft dots.>> Yes but if you want *red* dots they'll cost you $800 a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_karr Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I have not really shot anywhere that is really cold. My worst was -55 to -60 F. Shot with an M3, F2 and 500CM in those days. When it is that cold you wear a scarf over you mouth so you don't freeze your lungs. Camera rests against it. I learned to handle a tripod with mittens filled with Tonkin down. Clumsy, but you get used to it. Two worst problems: 1. Condensation on the finder when using a waist level finder; 2. Static discharge on the film in the 35 mm cameras. The cameras worked fine at those temperatures, but I think if the lub gets old you will have troubles. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_hilmersen1 Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Regarding gloves: what really works are thin silk liners with woolen mittens and an extra shell. If it is not that cold I just use leather cross-country gloves under the shell. I use this setup for ice-climbing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron_sawyer Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 "So - and this is teoretical - holding a cold MP to your face can be pretty scary thing. ;-)" I agree completely. I live in Russia and shoot a lot in cold weather, and I wouldn't use my Leicas in those conditions because of that, plus I wouldn't expect the shutters to work well at low temperatures (they work poorly enough at room temperature). The Bessa-R is all plastic, so won't freeze to your cheek. Plus it has a metal Copal shutter which I have used to -30C and beyond with complete reliability. To boot it's so cheap, that if you drop it off a cliff because you're fumbling with it with your gloves on, it won't be the end of the world. I think that's your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando_mcsoto Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 As I said in the thread of reference I would use a selenium light meter. I reccomend the Euro-MASTER II, which is still manufactured by Megatron in the United Kingdom. This light meter has been the choice of official British expeditions to the South Poles and Himalayas. I use it in the Scottish Highlands for hillwalking in winter and is very accurate. Obviously because it is a selenium light meter it does not need any batteries... Look at http://www.megatron.co.uk/euromaster2/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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