Coho Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 People rate what they wish to rate. You need to start somewhere. Nobody likes low ratings and everyone feels good about high ratings whether they deserve it or not. "One mans meat is another mans poison" as it has been said. This is a photographic community with diverse backgrounds and diverse opinions. The system could be better but this is what we got. Stop complaining, do some good work, feel good about what you do, and send your 25 bucks to the webmaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 "To say that it is below average or bad is not a matter of taste, it's a matter of ignorance." It's always a matter of taste. You should not claim others are ignorant just because they disagree with you. They may decide that you are the ignorant one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe_p Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Uh, Brad, it's Folks without a clue�. I suggest you form your own clique/circle as the ultimate way to keep undesirables from your photos if you feel safe only with a certain [mind]set. I am curious at the algorithm for the top photos in each category, and would appreciate dates beside submissions in the text lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 "It's always a matter of taste. You should not claim others are ignorant just because they disagree with you. They may decide that you are the ignorant one..." You can decide for yourself if it's a matter of taste or ignorance if they actually say something. If they persist in dropping numbers without comment, then I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. The same holds for people who refuse to discuss their own uploaded images when others have commented. If everything that went into your image was intentional, rather than just sloppy work, you should be able and willing to explain it, rather than take the aloof position that nobody understands your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Perhaps they just don't have anything to say. Perhaps they haven't even realised there's a comment on the image. Perhaps they're illiterate. There's any number of reasons why someone may not chose to engage in a discussion. In my case, I always left a comment when I rated but I just got fed up with the pettiness of some responses, so now I just don't bother. But, hey! I'm human, maybe in a little while I'll start leaving comments again :-)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brla Posted August 18, 2003 Share Posted August 18, 2003 I don't care what rating I get for authentic reasons, using whatever input I decide is worth it to me. Lots of it is very worthwhile. What I resent more than anything is the retaliatory rating. I think that there is a retaliator at work on my site. They know who they are. I would have given the retaliator 6/6 for a shot the other day, but I don't want retaliatory 6's any more than retaliatory 3's or 2's or whatever. Whether it's the SAT's, exam grades, PhotoNet ratings: Numbers seem to take on a life of their own, and it's not a happy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin_____grasshopper__rice Posted August 18, 2003 Share Posted August 18, 2003 <p>Somebody wants <i> attention</i>... <p>Well, Brad? Have you gotten it? Have a whole bunchof people run over to your folder and given you more ratings? <p>That's all you wanted by posting this thread and we ALL KNOW it. Why else do these threads keep getting posted? NOT ONE of you takes your own damn advice or listens to the ideas of asnybody else. How many responses did Marc's thread get? Hundreds? Did anyone care enough to even TRY ANY of the ideas? <p>You just keep complaining. WHINE WHINE WHINE. It's not even interesting anymore. Annoying. We all know Brian isn't going to up and delete the ratings systems. The abuse "department" isn't going to delete every ones account that ever said someone was an idiot or gave an undeserved 1. <p>Get some new ideas. Try them. Then come back here and tell us about them, so we can try them. Quit complaining. It's not doing anyone any good. <p>Well, maybe you're getting what you wanted after all. <p>Attention. Ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_hiltbrand Posted August 18, 2003 Author Share Posted August 18, 2003 I certainly do have one new idea grasshopper: avoid annoying vexatious insects spitting vile venomous juice. I'll make certain to avoid your posts and photos in the future. This thread did not generate ratings, nor was that the point of it. I won't bother to explain it again since you obviously have everything figured out already. I did get some ratings and comments from some of the folks whose photos I rated and made comments on before and since posting this thread. Please watch out for hungry birds. I understand they like slow fat stupid grasshoppers. I don't care for them myself as they're too bitter and crusty for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin_____grasshopper__rice Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 <p>That sure is a lot of venom there Brad. At least I stuck with baseless accusations and avoided name calling in my post. <p>Glad to see you've taken on my suggestions with such ferocity, I'll be eagerly awaiting your next post informing of all the things you've done to better the situation. I'm sure you'll get <i> right</i> on that. Right? <p>Maybe right after you finish calling me more ridiculous names...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_hiltbrand Posted August 19, 2003 Author Share Posted August 19, 2003 Actually Erin, I have been doing exactly what I said I would do in this thread, rating and commenting with every rate. I said I would participate, not mate-rate, not rate in retaliation. I have more than tripled my rate and comment count in the last few days by taking the time to give honest rates, critiques, criticism, and suggestions. I will never push a ratings button without making some sort of constructive comment. Getting this rant off my chest encouraged me to start doing that. If I receive retaliatory rates as a response, then so be it. I think you were way off base in your post earlier in this thread. Your tone and shouting inspired my less than gracious reponse to you. This is the first and last time I have or will post a thread in the site feedback forum complaining about ratings. You seem to think it is something I do all the time. Not so, although I am very aware previous threads about ratings complaints. I thought this one was a little different. You obviously did not. I usually try to be polite to folks, even rude folks. But your response did not seem to call for politeness, it called for either no response, or something like I gave you. I guess no response would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin_____grasshopper__rice Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Ah- But you are mistaken. I did not say <i> you </i> keep posting the threads, only that they keep getting posted. That these threads keep getting posted says to me that noone really gives a crud about fixing the problem, because they don't seem to take <i> any </i> of the advice offered. Ok, fine- you were just blowing off steam- I'll buy that. And if you truly are doing what you said then, great. I'm sorry I came at you like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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