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Yet another ratings rant, enjoy it while it lasts...


brad_hiltbrand

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People rate what they wish to rate. You need to start somewhere. Nobody likes low ratings and everyone feels good about high ratings whether they deserve it or not. "One mans meat is another mans poison" as it has been said. This is a photographic community with diverse backgrounds and diverse opinions. The system could be better but this is what we got. Stop complaining, do some good work, feel good about what you do, and send your 25 bucks to the webmaster.
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"To say that it is below average or bad is not a matter of taste, it's a matter of ignorance."

 

It's always a matter of taste. You should not claim others are ignorant just because they disagree with you. They may decide that you are the ignorant one...

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Uh, Brad, it's Folks without a clue�.

 

I suggest you form your own clique/circle as the ultimate way to keep undesirables from your photos if you feel safe only with a certain [mind]set.

 

I am curious at the algorithm for the top photos in each category, and would appreciate dates beside submissions in the text lists.

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"It's always a matter of taste. You should not claim others are

ignorant just because they disagree with you. They may decide

that you are the ignorant one..."

 

You can decide for yourself if it's a matter of taste or ignorance if

they actually say something. If they persist in dropping numbers

without comment, then I see no reason to give them the benefit

of the doubt.

 

The same holds for people who refuse to discuss their own

uploaded images when others have commented. If everything

that went into your image was intentional, rather than just sloppy

work, you should be able and willing to explain it, rather than take

the aloof position that nobody understands your work.

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Perhaps they just don't have anything to say. Perhaps they haven't even realised there's a comment on the image. Perhaps they're illiterate. There's any number of reasons why someone may not chose to engage in a discussion.

 

In my case, I always left a comment when I rated but I just got fed up with the pettiness of some responses, so now I just don't bother. But, hey! I'm human, maybe in a little while I'll start leaving comments again :-)<div>005lL6-14080684.jpg.63559dea6d3b6df0a8a7f0e619f08e8f.jpg</div>

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I don't care what rating I get for authentic reasons, using whatever input I decide is worth it to me. Lots of it is very worthwhile.

 

What I resent more than anything is the retaliatory rating. I think that there is a retaliator at work on my site. They know who they are. I would have given the retaliator 6/6 for a shot the other day, but I don't want retaliatory 6's any more than retaliatory 3's or 2's or whatever.

 

Whether it's the SAT's, exam grades, PhotoNet ratings: Numbers seem to take on a life of their own, and it's not a happy life.

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<p>Somebody wants <i> attention</i>...

 

 

<p>Well, Brad? Have you gotten it? Have a whole bunchof people run over to your folder and given you more ratings?

 

<p>That's all you wanted by posting this thread and we ALL KNOW it. Why else do these threads keep getting posted? NOT ONE of you takes your own damn advice or listens to the ideas of asnybody else. How many responses did Marc's thread get? Hundreds? Did anyone care enough to even TRY ANY of the ideas?

 

<p>You just keep complaining. WHINE WHINE WHINE. It's not even interesting anymore. Annoying. We all know Brian isn't going to up and delete the ratings systems. The abuse "department" isn't going to delete every ones account that ever said someone was an idiot or gave an undeserved 1.

 

<p>Get some new ideas. Try them. Then come back here and tell us about them, so we can try them. Quit complaining. It's not doing anyone any good.

 

<p>Well, maybe you're getting what you wanted after all.

 

<p>Attention. Ratings.

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I certainly do have one new idea grasshopper: avoid annoying

vexatious insects spitting vile venomous juice. I'll make certain to

avoid your posts and photos in the future.

 

This thread did not generate ratings, nor was that the point of it. I

won't bother to explain it again since you obviously have

everything figured out already. I did get some ratings and

comments from some of the folks whose photos I rated and

made comments on before and since posting this thread.

 

Please watch out for hungry birds. I understand they like slow fat

stupid grasshoppers. I don't care for them myself as they're too

bitter and crusty for my taste.

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<p>That sure is a lot of venom there Brad. At least I stuck with baseless accusations and avoided name calling in my post.

 

<p>Glad to see you've taken on my suggestions with such ferocity, I'll be eagerly awaiting your next post informing of all the things you've done to better the situation. I'm sure you'll get <i> right</i> on that. Right?

 

<p>Maybe right after you finish calling me more ridiculous names...?

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Actually Erin, I have been doing exactly what I said I would do in

this thread, rating and commenting with every rate. I said I would

participate, not mate-rate, not rate in retaliation. I have more than

tripled my rate and comment count in the last few days by taking

the time to give honest rates, critiques, criticism, and

suggestions. I will never push a ratings button without making

some sort of constructive comment. Getting this rant off my chest

encouraged me to start doing that. If I receive retaliatory rates as

a response, then so be it.

 

I think you were way off base in your post earlier in this thread.

Your tone and shouting inspired my less than gracious reponse

to you. This is the first and last time I have or will post a thread in

the site feedback forum complaining about ratings. You seem to

think it is something I do all the time. Not so, although I am very

aware previous threads about ratings complaints. I thought this

one was a little different. You obviously did not.

 

I usually try to be polite to folks, even rude folks. But your

response did not seem to call for politeness, it called for either

no response, or something like I gave you. I guess no response

would have been better.

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Ah- But you are mistaken. I did not say <i> you </i> keep posting the threads, only that they keep getting posted. That these threads keep getting posted says to me that noone really gives a crud about fixing the problem, because they don't seem to take <i> any </i> of the advice offered. Ok, fine- you were just blowing off steam- I'll buy that. And if you truly are doing what you said then, great. I'm sorry I came at you like that.
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