wayne_cornell1 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Is there a way to program the F100 to leave to film leader out on rewind or a technique to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank uhlig Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Send it to Nikon and they will reprogram the camera. You cannot do it yourself. Alternative: get a simple film retriever gadget to pull out the film end from the canister, if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris kaminski Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 You know, I'm really starting to get a bit peeved over this whole "Send it back to the manufacturer for reprogramming" crap I get, left and right. If it's not the car, it's the camera, if it's not the camera it's my watch. Hell, my TIVO has more reprogrammability than my car, for crying out loud. Why can't we have some sort of home reprogramming device for this stuff. Hell, we even have a protocol for it in SNMP (even though SNMP is way overkill for some of this stuff). I'm really sick and tired of paying some 18 yo $50 an hour to hook up some special dohickey to read a few output lines in my car to tell me that the air filter is clogged. Sorry for the venting, but this is a real sore spot with me. ;-) Find a reputable nikon repair center near you, you might be able to get the job done there. -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Wayne, yes, but i thought it was in the custom settings. I know i had to send my F90X in to have Nikon do it. But Frank is probably right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh_t Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Chris you need to breathe deeply and repeat after me "serenity now, serenity now" and switch to decaf. Doing those things along with switching to an all manual camera like a Fm3a or a Leica M3 will help you alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_cornell1 Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 The N90s can be reprogrammed if you have the proper connecting cable, and software but haven't seen any mention of that for the F100. Seems like the leader out option would be one enough people would want that it would be included in the on-board options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourfa Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 anyone know if the N80/F80 can be reprogrammed for leader-out as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Two things: 1. "Leader out" shooting is not an uncommon wish among pros. And Nikon could certainly have built a leader out option into the F100 as a Custom Function setting. But that would have been too easy. 2. With 1. in mind, even when I send equipment to Nikon to be repaired or adjusted with an NPS number, it takes longer than I'd like. And when you talk to Nikon Repairs, they're swamped. So, it isn't like there are spare repair dudes sitting around at Nikon with free time to change the leader preference on F100s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd peach seattle, washi Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I'm probably perpetuating an 'urban legend' or something, but there was a buzz going around for a while that Canon had 'patented' the feature (or common implementation) of motorized rewind 'leader out'. For some reason Nikon can 'modify' your camera to do that (for some models) but not ship it that way from the factory. I also heard that the re-programming of this is done via the DX contacts which seems really weird to me for a camera with a 10-pin 'computer connection'. Probably bogus info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armando_roldan Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I also heard of a f100 being modified to shoot like 32fps and have sound. They called a "movie camera" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_gray Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Frank is absolutely correct. Leaving the leader out after shooting a roll can lead to confusion...for obvious reasons. And if you are not happy with it, guess where you send it to make the correction? You got it. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ni-conartist Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 yes, nikon dropped the ball on this feature. however lets stop the crying and buy a 5 dollar film lead retriver......case closed on another nikon "f" file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen___4 Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Yes , It's true. Canon has the patent-hence the situation. I happen to have a minty F100 already modifired for leader -out that I have been thinking of selling, if anyone is interested. MB-10 grip also Stephen Sherman stephen_at_shermanphoto.com 617-542-1496 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_nguyen3 Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 If Nikon set leader out on rewind automaticly by default, are there more complains or less complains than no leader out on rewind from Nikon users ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constance_cook Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 The last thing I want on a camera is leader out on rewind. I had a Nikon p&s that did that and more than once, I did the old double exposure bit. And yeah, one of you is going to say I should have been more careful. Well, I've never needed a leader out that I couldn't use a leader puller and never have to wonder "now is that the roll already exposed?" I have enough to keep track of without that. Conni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 I would note that the leader-out option is becoming less of a necessity among pros. As an annecdote, we have a freelance news photographer who has come into my store for years. He gets excellent jobs shooting for Time, Newsweek, etc. But these clients are generally fighting deadlines and need the photos fast. It used to be that he would run in from a shoot with a handful C-41 rolls- usually Fuji Press (CZ) 800- with the leaders out just needing the rolls developed immediately. We'd develop the film, long-sleeve the rolls and he'd run home, scan the rolls and email the clients the shots. But for a while now, he's been using digital SLRs exclusively. He can shoot a portrait for Business Week and go into one of several big hotels in Chicago that have high speed wireless servers on their main floors. While he has lunch, he can edit his images, pay a few bucks to log into the hotel's server and immediately send the images to clients. Long story short, I think that many of the people who wanted or needed leader-out bodies were magazine and newspaper photographers who have now moved to digital. I want my leaders rewound in. It takes me two seconds to pull a leader out on a machine in my store for processing. And I've never damaged a roll of film using a leader retriever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_mcdonald Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Todd Peach is correct about Canon owning the patent on the "leader out" thing, at least that's what the counter folks at NIKON in Torrance, CA told me. It seems that Minolta or some brand offered that feature too. Anyway, I live about 35 minutes from NIKON Torrance so I don't have to wait spend big bucks on repairs, I hand it right over the counter. I have to say this, when I inquired about that mod for my F100 they said bring it in and leave it with them for 10 minutes, free of charge. Small consolation for you guys that have to ship it though. Somstimes I like to change film midroll, then use it again later. My processor is careful about cutting the negs. No problem doing that with the F4s, even when using the powerwind feature. I miss that kind of control on the F100. Joe McDonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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