deniz_merdan Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 After a looong night.. well more like not sleeping at all,i came up with this idea.. i don't know if it has been done before or am i the only nutcase?? check out the attached photo<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_bucknam Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Just make sure you put the film in emulsion side UP.... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor_crone4 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Nice idea! Although keeping the film absolutely flat may be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_loshin3 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Has this been done before? Probably. am I crazy? Probably not. This kind of thing just popped up on the vintage camera area, in reference to the "best 35mm folder" where the answer is "any 120 folder" in which you can jam a 35mm cannister. IMO, the coolest thing would be to stretch the 35mm film in 5 inch segments across the entire 4x5 film holder. Probably need something to hold them all flat(ish). Or wait. How about cutting a roll of film into a negative storage sheet, sticking that into an 8x10 holder (11x14?) and shooting an entire roll at once? Can't wait to see the results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 That's gonna make some interesting contact sheets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_davis2 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 My idea was to use 120 film to create a 6x12cm negative. Use double sided tape to hold the film in place and flat. Obviously the tape would be applied with the lights on. My Jobo sheet film reels shrink to handle 6x9 sheet film so I guess they'd handle the 6x12. They only shrink in height. 6x12 will fit a 4x5 enlarger no problem. One of these days I'll even remember to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller1 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 "My idea was to use 120 film to create a 6x12cm negative. Use double sided tape to hold the film in place and flat. Obviously the tape would be applied with the lights on. My Jobo sheet film reels shrink to handle 6x9 sheet film so I guess they'd handle the 6x12. They only shrink in height. 6x12 will fit a 4x5 enlarger no problem. One of these days I'll even remember to try it." I think that this is a great idea. With a 90 or shorter lens it would seem to give a nice panoramic effect. 135 mm would be the diagonal of 6X12 format. The ground glass needs to be masked accordingly. It might be easier to cut a dark slide and use it as a mask. A corresponding masking of the ground glass may be easier that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcoda Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Just make sure you do it in the dark! ;^) Seriously, I did something like this a long time ago (1984), but in a completely different way. I took 4x5 negs and printed them through a special mask I made (using a typesetter - but you could use Photoshop or any modern DTP program) that looked like a 35mm contact sheet. I had it output at a service bureau. You just put it on top of your enlarging paper and expose through it. It effectively makes a sinlge 4x5 exposure (or any other LF) into 36 "mini" frames. Rich www.rcodaphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_batla Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 What's the point of it? Why not just take a 4 x 5 and cut it up if you want little parts of it? It would be a lot easier than trying to use 35 mm film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_smith4 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Cool idea. I think something similar has been done, I believe I saw it in a magazine (B&W perhaps). Though I thought in the interview it said he used some kind of modified camera. I'll have to try this myself sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Would probably end up looking something like this:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobyalan.com Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Well, you are definitely crazy, even if it has been done before. However, it seems like a cool idea. Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_smith4 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Richard-It would looks similar, except the are around the sprocket holes would be exposed too, which gives it a really neat look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann_m Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Deniz,I did a similar thing in 7x11 format and 3 strips of various 120 films in the horizontal orientation. I first mounted the unexposed 120 with temporary spray adhesive to the back side of a daylight exposed & developed sheet of 7x11 film, it helps keep things square and makes loading the film into the holder very easy. A pre-soak in water will dissolve the adhesive before tray developing the roll film. Just dry the 'backing' film and use it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Heck, everytime I have an idea, someone else has already thought of it! My idea was this: Take a sheet of cardboard maybe 6"x8" and get 35mm film. Wrap the film around the cardboard, spiral fashion, emulsion side out. Make a mask from wire or thin wood to make frame dividers on the film. Expose the thing in a pinhole camera. Take it in the darkroom, flip the cardboard over, then go expose the other side. Wind the film back in the cassette, run it down to the 1-hour lab, and get 4x6 prints. Assemble the prints on posterboard leaving appropriate-sized gaps between them. I got as far as buying the film, and testing different methods of wrapping (the stuff is stiff enough it won't wrap easily around cardboard without creasing). Still haven't tried it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Oh yes, with the pinhole camera idea, you could actually staple all the film on a sheet of plastic, then tray develop if you used B&W... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_de_van Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Kodak and Nikon Collaborate to build new Digital Technology! Deniz, yours is identical to the patent Kodak filed last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvp Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 <I>Has this been done before or am i crazy?? </I><P> I'm going to take a wild guess, and go with "yes" on both counts... it sounds like a blast, but I imagine those little strips of 35mm film will be a pain to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacey_smith4 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 a easier approach to get 2 slots of 2 3/8 by 5 negative (6x13) is to make a lengthwise cutout on a darkslide, or 3 slots of 1 1/2 by 4 (width cut), and shoot regular 4x5. I know that has been done before -- though the ones I've seen (and made) are in the context of a single slot, reverse position for next slot, not both at once. (be careful on your cut-outs -- I thought I would leave a square frame (hole in middle, exact frame size, surrounded by dark slide), but the far end of the inner frame caught and tore the light tight lining on the holder. Since, I cut the opening all the way (so the dark slide is a "L" shape), and no problems, though it is possible to set the dark slide a little katti-whompus unless you are careful. For that reason, I have not tried the narrow dimension cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen_whittier Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 I did this with my 5x7 to make 6x17 panoramas with 120 film. I put double stick tape down the center of the holder and placed a 7" piece of 120 on either side. I then use a half dark slide to mask off one piece while I shoot the other. Works great. Why don't I just use a sheet of 5x7? I do for B&W, but for color there are more films available in 120. It's a lot easier to process too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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