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For my photography it probably won' effect me. I tend more and more to return to b&w film photography, but there are interessting approaches in useing AI in photography. https://lenscratch.com/2021/10/south-korea-week-byun-soonchoel-eternal-family/

I was critizised for my assumption of the american ruled market and the critique was right! But I won't accept your definition of art as defined by the market. I am a regular reader of a german photo magazine that publishes all sorts of approaches to commercial and art photograpghy https://photonews.de/ and although there is a strong bias towards professional photography many of the photos published will probably never find a buyer but influences other photographers. Second most street photography exhibitons I visited the last maybe 10 years showed more colour than b&w. Again I think it's your own perception of a diverse scene.

Touché. I've gone too far with my assumptions.

Allen, you are repeating yourself and you mistake the art market for art. Is it just the american way to value only what makes money? I hope not. But you are not even providing figures, just your perception of the so called market.

Can you give an example of what you mean by "the real commercial world"?

There certainly is street photography in colour. Look at the amazing work of Helen Levitt, who worked in b&w and in colour, Saul Leiter, Paul Graham and Martin Parr. Meyerowitz has already been named.

Me too thinks he has a totally different approach than HCB, but from todays point of view they might look familiar (both people, b&w, roughly the same time and fashion of clothing), I like both! As for technique, I think Fan Ho used mainly a Rolleiflex.

It should be 13mins not 3 (and at 22 Degr. Celcius!). Just a typo I suppose.

I am amazed to see an admin of a photo site who doesn't know Sally Mann.

Agfa APX 100 definitely and Fuji Neopan 400 (but HP5+ comes close).

Maybe the Contax T, T2 or T3 come close to what you want.

Although the start of WWII is usually dated on Sept. 1st 1939 you should not forget that Germany occupied Czechoslowakia, Austria and Lithunia in March 1939. That the aggressive foreign policy of Germany would lead into a war was obvious. Thanks for shareing these interessting photos.

When I convert my pictures to b&w I prefer RAW. It gives much more options to adjust contrast and tonality and I save them as png and get more grey tones than with jpgs.

If you browse through the Ostkreuz homepage you will discover many treasures of former east german photographers, like the Hauswalds, Sybille Bergemann, Werner Mahler and many more.

Thanks for the link. For me she was one of the greatest. The quality of her photography after the fall of the wall can easily hold up with her G.D.R. work. I love her Polaroids as well. Here's another link to her agency: Ute Mahler: Ostkreuz