Hi, Some interesting thoughts. Really appreciate all the help. I just recently bought the 24-70 2.8. I have some other lens but having rented it a couple of times felt confident I could crop and still have enough for good prints. I just ordered the 70-200 2.8 as well for some shots. I have been doing scenic and little birds for a long time. People not so much, fun stuff mostly. I really need to watch cutting off arm, hands and head tops. Thanks for the help, I need all I can get.