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T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
Thanks for the quick response Larry. Any thoughts on how to rectify this? The scan was made using Epson software on a V550 with all features disabled (sharpening, digital ice etc.) -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Hi Guys,<br> Back again! <br> I just processed another roll of Tri-X and found it to be, while not as bad, similar to my first problem roll when scanned.<br> Take a look here and see what you guys think, correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the dead space between frames be completely black and void of any texture?<br> This is a straight scan, no sharpening or other adjustments, 100% crop:<br /><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/TEST2.jpg">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/TEST2.jpg</a></p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Hi Rodeo Joe, <br> The film definitely appears fogged as there is very little contrast between the frames and empty areas, but you're right, I didn't even think of that.. maybe this was the results of a combination of X-Rays and extreme temp changes.</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Hi everyone, just a quick update:<br /> I'm pretty sure the issue was due to the film being X-Rayed. I have just processed a new roll of Tri-X with the exact same chemicals, temperatures and process and my results are much closer to what I originally expected. <br /><br />I could even see straight away that the negatives were already dramatically different, as you can see here: <br /><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/IMG_1547.JPG">New roll of Tri-X 400</a><br /><br />I'm sure you'll agree this is a huge improvement from the previous roll: <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/Comp.jpg">Problem roll of Tri-X 400</a><br /><br />I'll let you know how the scans turn out.<br /> Thanks again for all your help!</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Randy,<br> I have looked through a loupe and the entire film seems to have a fine texture to it which I'm guessing is where there is 'detail' in the blank areas?<br> Apologies for the bad image, I have over sharpened it to exaggerate the problem, but you can see the texture <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/TestC.jpg">here</a></p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Kodak seem to suggest that heavy grain and complete fogging could be visible from multiple x-ray scans. I guess this explains it.<br> I'll buy a new roll of Tri-X tomorrow and repeat my process and report back.<br> I am incredibly sorry if it does turn out to be the cause of the baggage scans I have wasted anyones time in trying to solve an impossible problem.</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Thanks Lex,<br> So if this was in my checked luggage, as I'm leaning towards thinking it was, both rolls were unexposed in both directions. I flew UK - ATL - BNA and a couple of weeks later BNA - ATL - UK<br> So I can only presume it was exposed to heavy X-rays at least twice. Should this look more like as you described if that was the case?</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Hi Lex,<br> Certainly not while I've had it, it was only purchased recently and the highest temperatures will have only been those involved in the processing.<br> However.. now you've said that, I've just realised that both of these films may have accidentally been in my checked luggage when I recently travelled to the US and back.<br> Now I feel stupid.</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Hi Randy,<br> Check page 2, and also what do you make of my last post on page 4?<br> Thanks</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Yeah, even your 'ugly' scan looks good to me Lex, even at that size my shadow areas are just huge white noise monsters.</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Ok, here's another update.<br /> I remembered I had some lab processed HP5+ negs and I have just given one of those frames a quick scan. It's absolutely perfect, so we can now completely rule out the scanning issue.<br /> I'm not sure if this is just the difference in film but I notice a huge contrast between the frames and blank outer areas of the HP5+ compared to my Tri-X, where it all kind of looks one tone. I've shown them side by side here: <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/Comp.jpg">Lab developed HP5+ vs Idiot developed Tri-X</a></p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Thanks Lex, well.. I wish they did look like those.<br> I also tried scanning the same negatives with Silverfast just to rule out the issue being with the Epson software, same result.<br> Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the area outside of the frame be pretty much black? Wouldnt this indicate a processing issue? (<a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5261701/TestB.jpg">example here</a>)</p> -
T-Max 400 and D76 huge grain problem
nick_west3 replied to nick_west3's topic in Black & White Practice
<p>Thanks Lex, that's exactly what I was expecting to see from my first scan.<br /><br />Trust me Didier, it's not a lens issue.</p>