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Winogrand, Figments from the Real World by John Szarkowski 1988 Museum of Modern Art (11 West 53 Street, New York, NY 10019). ISBN 0-87070-640-3. 260 pages, 208 illustrations. $45. Paperback is ISBN 0-8109-60885. $19.95.

A lot of photographers are famous for the pictures they exhibited; Garry Winogrand is famous for pictures he never even developed. When Winogrand died in 1984, he left more than 2500 rolls of film exposed but undeveloped, 6500 rolls developed but not proofed, and 3000 rolls proofed but not examined. That's a total of a third of a million unedited exposures.

Winogrand defines street photography for photographers. In myth, he sallied forth every day with a Leica, a pre-focussed wide angle lens, and ten rolls of Tri-X, then returned home to develop a portrait of New York City. This book amply displays Winogrand's art, but it is also valuable for the lengthy essay by John Szarkowski, Director of the Department of Photography at the Museum of Modern Art since 1962.

My feet are so flat that my friend Deborah calls me "turtle boy" so it should come as no surprise that I don't like standing around museum exhibits reading the "art prose" that purports to interpret the paintings or photographs. Szarkowski's essay, however, opens doors into Winogrand's art and world in a way that restored my faith in museum curation.

"To list in sequence the conventionally significant events of Winogrand's life is to construct what seems on paper a chronology of troubles and failures, punctuated occasionally by underappreciated successes." Szarkowski does lay out Winogrand's two failed marriages, one lasting 14 years and the other only two (after an incomplete personal survey of the field, it seems to me that very few dedicated photographers have managed to shoulder the responsibilities of marriage). He also discusses the pain of public indifference:

"A collection of Winogrand's pictures of women in public places, mostly made during the decade of he sixties, was published in 1975 at Women Are Beautiful. Winogrand's own appreciation of women was enthusiastic and undemanding, and he naively assumed that the rest of the world, at least the rest of the male world, would be eager to buy a book of photographs of anonymous, fully-dressed women walking down the street. His expectations of commercial success were disappointed."

What for me was the most valuable part of Szarkowski's commentary is his insight into Winogrand's art. Winogrand is famous for tilting the frame. Most people assume that this is because he was burning film so fast through his Leica on the streets on New York that he didn't have time to level the horizon. Szarkowski claims the tilt is a consequence of Winogrand's choice of wide angle lens and eye-level camera position. If he wanted to fill the frame with his subjects, he'd have to point the camera down at a 45-degree angle, which would distort vertical architectural lines in the background. Winogrand compensated by "making a vertical near the left edge of his subject square with the frame, and then a vertical near the right edge, or a dominant vertical anywhere between."

Some of Szarkowski's choicest words might well be applied to a great many photographers:

"The technical decline of the last work was perhaps accelerated by Winogrand's acquisition, in 1982, of a motor-driven film advance for his Leicas, which enabled him to make more exposures with less thought. On the same day he acquired an eight-by-ten-inch view camera, an instrument that proposes a diametrically different approach to photography. The new camera was perhaps an acknowledgment that his old line of thought was nearing the breaking point. He did not use the eight-by-ten, but he talked about using it..."
Szarkowski's final words won't be applied to many, however.
"When we consider the heedless daring of his successes and his failures we become impatient with tidy answers to easy questions, and with the neat competence of much of what now passes for ambitious photography. Winogrand has given us a body of work that provides a new clue to what photography might become, a body of work that remains dense, troubling, unfinished, and profoundly challenging. The significance of that work will be thought by some to reside in matters of style or technique or philosophical posture. There is no original harm in this misunderstanding, and useful work may come of it, but it will have little to do with the work of Garry Winogrand, whose ambition was not to make good pictures, but through photography to know life."


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Gerald Whyte , June 17, 1997; 11:39 P.M.

"That's a total of a third of a million unedited exposures".

Two questions arise from this statement, one specific to Winogrand and one general.

Did these images just build up over his life, did he take his ten rolls each day and he knew when he had had a bad day and the films were not worth examining or towards the end of his life did he just give up examing the photos he took?

The second question relates to photography in general and how it is distinct from other art forms. The volume of output from from any active photographer is large. Given the element of chance in photography, any and every photographer, if sufficiently prolific will produce some excellent shots.

The hypothetical case of an infinite number of monkeys eventually typing out Hamlet becomes possible even inevitable in photography. If you set a tripod up at random on a street corner and set it to automatically take a photo every five minutes you will eventually take a picture worthy of Cartier-Bresson, Robert Frank or Gary Winogrand.

A great painter or sculpter can be defined interms of perhaps 30-50 major works and 100-200 minor ones. So what defines a good photographer, there are very few bodies of photographic work which are well known and can be conceived of as a single major work of art. The only one that comes easily to mind is Robert Franks The Americans. Most other photographic books are collections of what has been produced by the photographer over a period of years. I have copies of America in Passing and A propos de Paris by Cartier-Bresson both of these books contain excellent photographs but they still have the air of a "greatest hits" or "Best of" about them. Is it necessary for a photographer move beyond producing a collection of 100 good street photographs and to produce an cohesive work where each photograph is an essential element of the whole?

Jerry Sullivan , November 23, 1997; 10:00 P.M.

Gary was truly a very funny and engaging man. I repaired his cameras while he taught at the University of Texas. I loved the guy, he was a typical NYer if I ever met one. I have several of his photos which are quintessential Americana of the 70. It may be street photography, but what about the photos of Mohammed Ali, Diane Arbus, and Monkey in the Bronx Zoo. You could stand on a street corner for a very long time and never be in the right place at the right time with a camera and know what to do with it. He was a master technician with Tri X and D76, plus he could see the pathos of a seemingly humdrum existence and give it timelessness. He was my friend. Jerry Sullivan Precision Camera & Video 3810 N. Lamar Blvd. Austin, Texas 78756 512-467-7676 512-467-7754 x 303 Private Line jerrys@precision-camera.com http://www.precision-camera.com

Dan Mayfield , December 11, 1997; 08:34 P.M.

Being a street photographer myself, journalist, and burning many rolls of film through my Nikon, I can easily see how Winogrand left so many un-edited pictures behind. I have been a huge fan, and he was a great influence in my work. Because of his determination to walk around everyday with a camera more or less glued to his eye, I have begun to do the same. Now I have no excuse for not getting the shot. I just wonder what would happen if I left behind so many rolls of film. Thank you Gary for your inspiration.

Erik Carl Hanson , December 29, 1997; 04:51 A.M.

Winogrand means alot to me. Although I never knew him, and was born years after his successes, I feel some how connected to him.

His work taught me to be free, and to rely on my instincts--not my all too critical and analyletical head.

His continuous dedication reaffirmed that we must search and grow, and search and grow and fail, and that we ought not feel completely satiated and finished. It is all about the long road, with a thousand exciting and blind turns, and the destination...

...Winogrand's and Friedlander's legacy is a great one. They broke the molds, and made it okay (and "right") to make pictures that don't look like Paris in the 1950's... or mere lyrical none sense. Reality as they saw it was odd and indescribable, and their most brilliant photos are all about that inability to truly understand that that we see.

cynthia e. jones , November 03, 1998; 03:45 A.M.

I visited the NY MoMA two days ago, and all I wanted to see was the photography exhibits. After impatiently perusing the engravings by Jackson Pollack, I entered the Photography wing with much excitement and anticipation. After studying the works of many of my favorite photographers, and seeing a few I'd never heard of, I wandered into "Gallery 3" where the entire room was devoted to Winogrand. I had never heard of him, and after reading the descriptive paragraph neccessarily accompanying any exhibit of note, I recognized myself in the commentary. Winogrand had no agenda, no confined form or subject matter common to so many photographers we admire. His subject matter was life. Every day life, once-in-a-lifetime life, heart-breaking moments in history life. I shoot everything I see, from transients on the street (rarely, since I feel that they've been greatly exploited in the photographic field) to rock stars in concert to kids in the park to my friends at a party, all with the same documentary look and feel of Winogrand. My best friend saw the exhibit a bit before me, pulled me aside and asked if I'd seen Gallery 3 yet. "Yes," I said, and simultaneously we both added,"He shoots like me!" I was so exhilirated to see that someone else just takes their camera with them, literally EVERYWHERE THEY GO, to capture life throught the lens. My friends think I'm insane, taking pictures of strangers everywhere, documenting my brief sojurn on this planet. I take pictures to understand the world I live in, to study moment which I could not make stand still, to remember thoughts, deeds, adventures, to prove I was there, to prove everyone was there, to prove no one was there. Now I know at least one other person out there shoots and thinks like I do, even if he is no longer on my plane of existence. He is there. And I am here, happy for the glimpse into his mind. I was moved. I also shoot about 6-10 rolls a day, and currently have about 100 rolls undeveloped in my refrigerator at any given time. I don't live in NYC, but rather, Sacramento, CA, and I feel that a live just as exhuberant and exciting can be captured anywhere you go. I thank you for reading this, knowing that perhaps someday someone else will understand what I'm saying and I can connect with them. Thank you. Thank you, Winogrand. Thank you so much.

dave martin , April 11, 1999; 01:33 A.M.

I have read that the reason for the large amounts of film was that he wanted to avoid the feeling from a day having an effect on his photo editing. If you are having a good day and look at a poor photo that you took you may think it is better than it is. Or if you're having a lousy day you may trash a good photo. By waiting to process his film all of those associations are gone and he only looked at the photos for what they were. --------I once read a quote by Winogrand about what he misses when he changes film, If anybody knows the quote I would apreciate if you would send it my way.

Kelley Lane , April 12, 1999; 09:35 P.M.

I have never found a photographer that has influence me as much a Garry Winogrand. When I began taking photographs I was an outdoor photographer who looked for beautiful landscapes to photograph. I would spend hours setting up shots, waiting for the right light, and perfecting the craft of exposing Kodachrome so that the colors radiate with beauty. I got pretty good at it, but I never quite felt fulfilled as a photographer. Then I came across an article by Mason Resnick in "Modern Photography" about Garry Winogrand. I first studied the photos with their tilted frames and curious subject as they walked the city streets. Then I began to discover what a unique man Winogrand was. This was the kind of photography I yearned to do. I put away the tripod and the Kodachrome, purchased a bulk loader and a couple of reels of Tri-X and hit the city streets. I felt liberated and loved every minute of photographing people as they made their way along the sidewalks of the city. At the same time I began a search for Winogrand's books (all out of print, unfortunately) and studied his work. Garry Winogrand is one of the true greats in the history of photography. I find myself captivated by his photos and life story. The pleasure that I get from photography I owe to Garry Winogrand.

david kelly , May 16, 2000; 08:00 P.M.

Erik Hanson has it wrong: it was William Klein, not Gary Winogrand or Lee Friedlander, who dragged -or kicked- american photo-reportage out from under the long shadow cast by Cartier-Bresson. "Life is Good and Good For You in New York 1954-55"is a frontal assault on every convention there has ever been about what makes a good photograph, but if you were alive in New York in those years you'll recognize right away that this is the real stuff. Or maybe even if you weren't: it was revised and reissued in 1995, so have a look. It's a work framed in multiple ironies: The famous art director Alexander Liberman got Vogue to foot the bill. Klein says when he knew he was going home [from G.I.Bill studies in Paris] to shoot the project he went to Magnum to see if he could get a good deal on a used camera and ended up buying a Leica from, who else? Cartier-Bresson. Then every publisher in New York turned the book down -recoiled from it in horror would be more like it - so Klein took it back to Paris where it won the Prix Nadar in 1956 and he became a big hero -to the French! But there's nothing french about this work, Klein belongs with Ginsburg, Burroughs, Monk, Coltrane, Pollack, Rothko. You can almost smell the cheap cigars, day-old garbage and pissed-in alleys of lower Manhattan, feel the bubblegum stuck to the sole of your shoe. These are New York shots.

Sean Reid , November 24, 2000; 01:52 P.M.

Garry was a good friend of the photographer/writer/critic Ben Lifson who has been a close friend of mine for many years. Ben helped Garry to choose the pictures included in "Stock Photographs". With all due respect, I think John (Szarkowski) was mistaken in some of what he wrote about Garry in "Figments from the Real World". For a different perspective on Winogrand and his pictures, see Ben's essay in the recently published "The Man in the Crowd : The Uneasy Streets of Garry Winogrand". I also think it's important to remember that Garry really detested hearing the term "Street Photography" applied to his work because it wasn't an accurate description of his subject. His subject was generally people, or "animals" as he described them. (his choice of the word "animals" is in no way derogatory, merely descriptive). I think that getting away from the term "street photography" could help photographers and viewers understand pictures in clearer and more precise terms.

Paul Sibek , January 04, 2001; 07:01 P.M.

I met Winogrand at a week long workshop he gave us at Massachusetts College of Art in 1974.

It was a freezing cold snowy evening that first night and I didn't know what to expect as I was about to meet the master of photography.

He arrived with a broken foot, wrapped in a plastic Wonder Bread bag...

He defined photography into it's most simple terms, FORM & CONTENT. All photographs had a "level of contention" between the form and content.

Funny, some student wanted more and he argued that we need not to look any further, that was the way it was - form & content. He got a little testy with one person who seemed to think there just had to be more than that, it couldn't be that simple. But is was.

My impression of Garry is this, he shot for himself alone. Not to impress anyone. Like a physicist working on an equation he was creating photographic "problems" which contain their own "solutions". (I'm rereading a 25 year old collective interview, Monkeys Make the Problem More Difficult (Rochester, NY 1970), he handed out to us, which in stating the above, he seemed to be completly confounding the interviewers.)

Garry was a simple man who was able to define a great mystery for me. Thanks, pal.

peter samuel , February 02, 2001; 10:16 A.M.

It is about capturing images. All images or any images. If you consider how many things and views that you see each day from the moment you open your eyes, and how much of that information is not remembered. Obviously it is impossible and not desirable to capture every image that burns itself on your brain each day, but that desire to record those things, even if it is less than one percent, and to better understand life and the world through those pictures. Image making can only reflect our consciousness. I assume Winogrand understood that.

T T , February 19, 2001; 03:05 P.M.

"I take pictures to understand the world I live in, to study moment(s) which I could not make stand still, to remember thoughts, deeds, adventures, to prove I was there, to prove everyone was there, to prove no one was there. "

Give me a break! If Winogrand were alive to read this I think he would probably gag...

Allen Zak , July 03, 2001; 03:10 P.M.

Winogrand was a big influence when I started doing photography in the mid-50s. What caught my attention was his unrestricted visual approach, economy of means and energy. This was before I became aware of Robert Frank or William Klein, both superior to Winogrand, IMHO, in all conceptual and technical aspect of the art. I was 16 years of age, however, in the midst of intellectually repressive times and seeking avenues of expression. Winogrand worked for me, and I gratefully acknowledge the liberating effect of his photography on what became my career and life.

That said, I think there is less to (most of) Winogrand than meets the eye. I don't think Winogrand had a deep understanding of what he worked with and by the time he published "Women are Beautiful," his concepts seemed superficial, almost trite. What was once creative energy now seemed more like edginess. His earlier work was engaged, his later, detached, descending eventually into irrelevance. What was once refreshing irreverence become just sloppiness, both in concept and execution.

Winogrand remarked that the reason he photographed was to see what his subject matter looked like as photographs. That's pretty thin stuff. I prefer content.

I don't wish to offend, but those are my thoughts

Allen Zak

chris shaw , July 21, 2001; 12:21 A.M.

i saw garys colour work albeit a shortrned unedited version in arles france at the photo festival and theres just so much but it does show how he worked and also how compulsive were his methods like a free-form jazz musician he just roamed free on the street.

Alan Mass , September 18, 2002; 11:41 A.M.

For all the photographers who can't spend everyday shooting pictures because they need to feed themselves and their family, I thank photo.net for printing the comments of readers of this review. What a relief to find out that Gary Winogrand took so long to develop and print his films -- and that he did so intentionally! I just hope that I'll have the good fortune not to die in the prime of life as he did without having seen whether most of my shots worked out.

Steve Rosenblum , September 03, 2003; 10:49 P.M.

This book has been long out of print. Today I noticed that it has been reprinted as of August, 2003 and is now available on Amazon.com and other booksellers.

Jamie J. , June 04, 2007; 08:03 P.M.

A lot of photographers are famous for the pictures they exhibited; Garry Winogrand is famous for pictures he never even developed.

What absolute bosh. Where do you get this stuff? Winogrand and a handful of NY street photographers defined the genre for an entire generation. Be assured that was accomplished with exhibited and published images. His legacy of unprocessed work is another matter altogether.

gian luca trogi , November 18, 2007; 03:48 P.M.

there are many great photographers but few artists, surely Winogrand is an artist. His photos taken like a monkey-shooter hoping to get the truth, reaching sometimes the truth, were unforgettable. Taking pictures to understand the real world is a great lesson for evryone who wants to know his own truth. Thanks you Garry

Denis Kopylenko , January 30, 2008; 06:00 A.M.

I am a big fan of Garry Winogrand, but a lot has been said in praise of his work, so I don't feel a necessity to say more. on the other hand, I would like to comment on the "monkey with the camera" attitude, which appears here and there to explain his success. it is common to hear the type of quotations one of the early responders placed in this thread, saying that if you put infinite number of monkeys with typewriters for infinite time, they will ultimately produce Hamlet. well, without getting into argument of whether this scientific statement is true, false, or at least provable, I would like to ask those holding to this point of view: have you tried to shoot infinitely (or for this matter at least for several years, like Garry did) on infinite number of streets and produce hundreds of thousands of rolls of film, then go through it, develop, print and sort out? I think you didn't. Not a lot of people did. I think that Garry's success is mostly based on devotion. I don't reject, or accept the "talent" thing, as nobody knows what it is. I think that his overwhelming interest and need in photography produced such a devotion, sometimes bordering with insane addiction, which allowed him to be in a lot of right places at a lot of right times. it also made him develop technique, but above all it gave him ability to "see". you know I can only speak for myself, when it is about an inner view of things - I have periods, when I shoot 2-3 rolls of film a day every day for a week, in such periods (especially at the end) my senses become high, I start "feeling" images where there are normally none. I wonder around same dull streets, but see a lot more. In such days I understand what Garry's success was built on - devotion caused deeper understanding and developed his unique and better sense of ordinary things. he said - I photograph to see what things look like photographed (or something like that), and however pretentious, naive and may be even superficious such statement might seem it was only a coded statement of what he understood, but was unable to transfer with words to others. others didn't know the meaning of that feeling when you "see" and which appears only when you shoot and shoot and shoot endlessly for days, weeks, and years, day after day. they just couldn't understand it the way Garry meant it. I might have only slightly touched this kind of feeling in my life on very few occasions, but still it made me understand that Garry's way was not the "monkey with the camera" way, but the way of developing sharp senses for things around through constant and heavy work, through devotion many people can't afford, and not willing to have.


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